Tuesday, June 26, 2001

It was a full Deadstein jam with a last minute back to our old stomping grounds, Carroll's on 41st Street, since our new home Pseudo on Broadway's elevator was out of order.  This coupled with a 6th floor jam, a full move in and hot weather precluded us from moving to our new home.  Nevertheless, Carrolls was clutch and we made it one last time to Carrolls.  

Michael Carpetsteen, from Carpetsteen the Deadstein floor-cover band, was there to chip in where he could and by the end of the night Peter from Pseudo and his friend Phil wandered in to check us out.  It's just part of the new freak scene we are about to embark on.  I'm sure we have all seen Phil before somewhere.

It was my birthday show and I picked an easy setlist to play under the assumption we were going to be somewhere new.  In any case, we played the whole set plus a few songs.  Trister got to play some half time drums to a song I forgot and we even got a few extras.  There first five songs were really good, including the Stranger.

I was using my new Roland VG-8EX guitar modeler box and played all non-magnetic pickup, simulated sounds all night.  I was a lot of fun.  Dark Star was long and spacy.  Most of what we played was good.

Till next Thursday, hopefully in Pseudo

Name: tbanjo
Date: 6/27/01
Time: 8:46:21 AM
Remote Name: 216.173.8.66

Comments

Larry Gindoff - you are next up for a pick on the list for the Deadstein vine.

good jam last pm,

Name: Trister
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 9:44:45 AM
Remote Name: 208.249.55.66

Comments

Well I say if pseudo is going to be using our gear then screw that scene. I have enough problems with my stuff already. Why can't we use whatever gear is there now? Their obviously into sharing......

Name: tbanjo
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 9:46:54 AM
Remote Name: 216.173.8.66

Comments

I booked us at Carroll's...in case.

Name: Michael Carpetsteen
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 9:53:33 AM
Remote Name: 63.111.230.120

Comments

Thank you all for an enjoyable night of music. This jam was perhaps the best sounding Deadstein jam that I heard yet. It was obvious that no one left anything on the table. From LG new sound module to Scott's trick gel pads, not to mention LB's new EMGs and Dave's new ball, everyone added something unique to move the music further.

Name: tbanjo
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 10:07:05 AM
Remote Name: 216.173.8.66

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some of the Spacey stuff was unsettling. I had to keep walking around the room.

Name: Trister
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 10:20:53 AM
Remote Name: 208.249.55.66

Comments

I thought the straightforward stuff was unsettling. I had to stare at my feet while playing it.....

Name: scott
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 10:46:46 AM
Remote Name: 64.64.50.18

Comments

Trister, Pseudo does not have existing equiptment.

Name: tbanjo
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 11:06:30 AM
Remote Name: 216.173.8.66

Comments

staring at your feet could be unsettling too. ;^)

Scotty- I think that AT knew that.

Name: KEVIN
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 1:13:55 PM
Remote Name: 207.41.174.192

Comments

Without question, there has been something going on for the past couple of weeks. We have been playing incredibly hot, tight and skoppy (kinda like freakboy's underwear). I have been enjoying it greatly. The ultimate irony is that there is no tapes. Go figure. Hopefully the Pseudo issue will not distract us from our current trend of goodness.

Name: Trister
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 2:13:08 PM
Remote Name: 208.249.55.66

Comments

Fuck pseudo. It's become way more trouble than it's worth. If it ain't broke don't fix it and nothing's broken at Carrolls, except a music stand or two. If anything let's revisit the issue in October when the AC isn't an issue. Imagine moving stuff around after sweating all night. The only thing I really hate about Carrolls is the lighting. Where's that light show guy anyway? If we could only get him to come every week.....

Name: KEVIN
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 2:28:10 PM
Remote Name: 207.41.174.37

Comments

If you think about it, there were only 2 things that made the Pseudo thing attractive: (1) It was to be OUR new home and private clubhouse. (2) Live internet broadcast with the possibility of an audience.

(1) It is not to be OURS in any way. So cross that off the list.

(2) We could tape @ Carroll's and let Pseudo broadcast that. And if there are actual parties that are conducive to what we do, we could play them at our discretion. Providing we are invited.

LL Carroll's.

Name: Brotpen
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 3:01:39 PM
Remote Name: 208.59.41.100

Comments

CLearly a "Deadstein Club House" arrangement with the chance of participating in a scene with a webcasting component and an audience is worth trying out. I'm all for that. But will this situation live up to the potential of those possibilities or are we just letting others use our stuff for their parties. However, the lack of consistent access, security for the equipment, lack of amenities are causes for concern. I could compromise to the extent of knowing strangers are using my amp and stands, but in no way am I interested in people banging on the keyboard that took 4 years to scrape together the dough for. A new or even used touch sensitive keyboard trigger is going to run more than a couple hundred bucks. We would also need some kind of plan for how to handle moving everything for Tommy-fest. I agree that we've been playing better recently. Last Tuesday has some "personal best moments" for me. Let's decide our fate soon becuase my stuff is currently at Psudeo without benefit of a working elevator. Whatever we decide, who will communicate with Peter?

Name: Larry G.
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 3:10:32 PM
Remote Name: 168.191.113.24

Comments

Why don't we go to Pseduo and each of us contributes $20/week and put it into a Deadstein type of Insurance fund to pay for any equipment that is ruined at a Band level as opposed to individual. Before we know it, we will have a nice chunck of change that I assume won't go into fixing equipment but it will be out insurance. I like to potential freak factor of Pseudo which we have not had since Dennis'. We may even see a midget or two. The location of Pseudo blows away Carroll's for me, it will save me 10-20 minute going there each time with a lot less hassle and heartache. Did I mention, we'll save $1,000 per month and not that I am cheap but it seems substantial. How about our ability to play other days if we want besides our full night of Deadstein once a week. Maybe a group of us going there for a smaller, more intimate jam. Acoustics have to be better. It's an new adventure. Carroll's is like being locked in a closet.

Name: tbanjo
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 3:37:41 PM
Remote Name: 216.173.8.66

Comments

I haven't see Pseudo, but you liken Carroll's to a closet. Is Pseudo a studio? Is there a stage? Lighting? I know there is no A/C at Pseudo's, and I would rather be in a climate-controlled-closet than a well- cushioned-coffin. The arguement that only seems to make sense to go to Pseudo's ($$ aside) is that we have not been there - and we may need to experience it first hand. BUT, I am not excited about finding out how BAD it could be, if the worst it at Carroll's is the cost each week. AND, we are already discussing a disaster relief fund at Pseudo's, so in our mind, isn't it possible that deep down we all know something is probably going to happen? Peter is a great guy, but he cannot be in several places at once, cannot control a roudy bunch of drinking and drugging musicians, if they decide to kick in an amp. And who wants to hassle Peter over the equipment if it breaks? Sometimes it breaks if you treat it nicely - evidenced by Trister's amp, which I have seen blow 2X in less than one yr. I do not think this band is committed to THIS new location. I am beginning to make up my mind that Carroll's is the place to be. Especially since we ALL need to agree to go to a place, and we do not ALL agree on Pseudo's.

Name: Trister
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 3:54:04 PM
Remote Name: 208.249.55.66

Comments

no matter what happens I leave nothing at pseudo.

Sorry Gind, but pseudo is an xtra 20 min/heartache for me. I would like to check it out though. Why don't we play there one time, set up and beak down, and see how we like it?

Name: Larry G.
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 4:12:47 PM
Remote Name: 168.191.113.24

Comments

Good thing I completed the posting for this week. I agree with Andy that we should at least try it before we knock it. After I went there for one night, I got real excited about it and its possibilities. By the way, we could always have the mics setup there and always get a tape because it's there with nothing to setup. Unless Kevin's worried someone's going to ruin those PZM's which I assume he isn't. One more point, There is a refriderator there for placing cool beer and soda into and a Mister Softy who parks right underneath.

Name: scott
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 4:13:39 PM
Remote Name: 64.64.50.18

Comments

How about a field trip to pseudo? You all have interesting views on all of this. Especially the Midget thing.....If Gind has a spare kit that he is willing to bring in for me to use (I appreciate the thought), and Dave brings his old black kit and or whatever he intends to bring, Brotpen to decide on which keyboard he'll bring (leave it or not)Do we owe it to ourselves to at least check it out?

Name: tbanjo
Date: 6/28/01
Time: 4:36:05 PM
Remote Name: 216.173.8.66

Comments

lol! the pendulum swings again!

I'll check back on thursday AM to see where we will be playing! Remember, we are already booked at Carroll's

Name: scott
Date: 7/2/01
Time: 10:57:25 PM
Remote Name: 24.168.77.150

Comments

HAPPY 4TH OF JULY.....ARE WE ALL SET FOR THURSDAY? Lets try for an early move and set up if possible.

Name: scott
Date: 7/2/01
Time: 10:57:31 PM
Remote Name: 24.168.77.150

Comments

HAPPY 4TH OF JULY.....ARE WE ALL SET FOR THURSDAY? Lets try for an early move and set up if possible.

Name: tbanjo
Date: 7/3/01
Time: 8:38:32 AM
Remote Name: 216.173.8.66

Comments

since we are not meeting for dinner, and instead plan a huge 2 hour break in the middle, complete with naps, I can be there as early as 5ish. see you then...600 Broadway? 8th floor?

Name: SCOTT
Date: 7/3/01
Time: 8:55:04 AM
Remote Name: 64.64.50.18

Comments

Thats just what Mr.T needed to hear Mr.Banjo Sir....

Name: tbanjo
Date: 7/3/01
Time: 9:16:42 AM
Remote Name: 216.173.8.66

Comments

Of course, I said it for ol'e leatherskinned MrT. He knows that I am joking - we have an understanding to put up a show for you all.

Name: Brotpen
Date: 7/3/01
Time: 1:41:57 PM
Remote Name: 208.59.41.100

Comments

The PA System is ready to go anytime on Thursday. Someone (probably Larry B.) should call me 212-780-5700 x-190 with an ETA and we'll haul it over.

Name: tbanjo
Date: 7/5/01
Time: 8:09:35 AM
Remote Name: 216.173.8.66

Comments

my e-mail is out...indefinately...are we ok to go?

Name: Larry G.
Date: 7/5/01
Time: 9:31:16 AM
Remote Name: 168.191.112.176

Comments

Larry brent is kind enought o bring some equipment in for me today for which I am greatly appreciative. I'm looking forward to this next chapter of Deadstein, it could be exciting. I grabbed and borrowed whatever drum parts I could from Carpetsteen to help Scott out but it is far from a complete kit so if Scott or Dave see this and have access to the missing parts of a drum kit, they should get them and bring them and bring them tonight or Scott will be playing on a very limited kit. Specifically for the drum I have the following, Bass drum (no pedal), hi-hat cymbals and pedal, snare drum and and holder. 2 toms but no hardware to attach them to anything and only one small crash cymbal without hardware. That is is. so look at this list and bring additional hardware, drum keys, sticks, thrones, cymbals that you need.

See you all later.

Don't forget, if you can't make it live, listen to us tonight on live streaming real audio by going to www.sugarmegs.org.

Name: Trister
Date: 7/5/01
Time: 10:13:10 AM
Remote Name: 208.249.55.66

Comments

If you were coming to Pseudo from the north, how would you approach it? West Side, FDR, what exit? Help me find this stinkin place....

Name: Larry G.
Date: 7/5/01
Time: 10:24:44 AM
Remote Name: 168.191.112.176

Comments

Andy:

I would take the FDR south to Houston Street, for which there is an exit. It is the exit after 14th street. Take Houston West and it is at the courner of Houston and Broadway. There is a Pottery Barn on the First floor of the Building we are playing at, but it is vitually as "on the courner" as you can get. I assume the Intersection of Broadway and Houston is 1/2 way across the island so there is no need to go to the westside at all. If the FDR is packed you may need to go south to Houston on one of the Avenues but I think Houston usually moves pretty well to cross the island.

See ya.

Name: larry brent
Date: 7/5/01
Time: 10:40:45 AM
Remote Name: 24.4.252.80

Comments

todays the big day Here is your contact ino

PSEUDO 600 West Broadway 6th Floor (just south of Houston) Phone 212 329 6262 Peter Cell 516 455 1920 LB Beeper 732 375 3331

I will be in NYC by 2Pm with minivan for all necessary moving. Beep me

LB

Name: larry brent
Date: 7/5/01
Time: 10:40:48 AM
Remote Name: 24.4.252.80

Comments

todays the big day Here is your contact ino

PSEUDO 600 West Broadway 6th Floor (just south of Houston) Phone 212 329 6262 Peter Cell 516 455 1920 LB Beeper 732 375 3331

I will be in NYC by 2Pm with minivan for all necessary moving. Beep me

LB

Name:
Date: 7/5/01
Time: 10:42:28 AM
Remote Name: 24.4.252.80

Comments

i did not double post

Name: tbanjo
Date: 7/5/01
Time: 1:23:22 PM
Remote Name: 216.173.8.66

Comments

work is dead. will be arriving at 2:30 to help out - just like the calvery.

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